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Epistaxis

Bleeding from the nasal cavity, most commonly originating from the Kiesselbach plexus on the anterior nasal septum.

Murtagh Diagnostic Strategy

CategoryDiagnosisKey DiscriminatorCantonese Question / FindingProbability
Probability DiagnosisIdiopathic anterior epistaxis (Little's area)Young patient, unilateral, self-limiting, digital trauma, dry climate「有冇挖鼻習慣?流血通常自己止到?」~60%
Hypertension-related epistaxisOlder patient, known/new HTN, bilateral/posterior「有冇高血壓?量過血壓未?」(BP measurement)~10%
Serious Not To MissNasopharyngeal carcinoma (NPC) [1][2]Unilateral bloody postnasal drip, ear symptoms, neck mass, Southern Chinese「有冇頸粒嘢?鼻水倒流有冇帶血?耳仔塞唔塞?」~1%
Bleeding disorder (ITP, vWD, leukaemia) [3]Bleeding at multiple sites, petechiae, easy bruising, ↑↑APTT「身體其他地方有冇出血?皮膚有冇紅點瘀斑?」~1%
Sinonasal tumour / NK T-cell lymphoma [4]Unilateral nasal obstruction, crusting, facial swelling「一邊鼻成日塞住?面有冇腫?」< 1%
Liver failure / coagulopathyJaundice, spider naevi, known liver disease「皮膚有冇黃?有冇肝病?」< 1%
PitfallsForeign body (children)Child, unilateral foul discharge「(小朋友)一邊鼻有冇臭嘅鼻水?」~2%
Hereditary haemorrhagic telangiectasia (HHT) [5]Recurrent epistaxis + telangiectasia on lips/fingers + FH (AD) + AVM「嘴唇手指有冇紅色細血管?屋企人有冇類似情況?」< 1%
MasqueradesDrugs (anticoagulants, antiplatelets, NSAIDs) [4]Temporal relationship with medication「最近有冇開始食新藥?」~10%
Pregnancy (↑blood volume, mucosal congestion) [4]Reproductive-age female, amenorrhoea「有冇可能懷孕?月經正唔正常?」~2%
Trying to Tell Me Something?Health anxiety about NPC / cancerHK context: NPC fear, family/friend diagnosed「你係咪擔心係鼻咽癌?有冇認識嘅人患過?」~5%

6-Minute Consultation Structure

TimeTaskCantonese Key PhrasesWhy It Scores Marks
0:00–0:30Friendly opening, rapport, set agenda「你好,我係X醫生,今日會同你傾大約六分鐘,了解吓你嘅情況。你放心講,我哋慢慢傾。」Scores interpersonal marks; establishes trust
0:30–1:30Open-ended HPI → characterise epistaxis「可唔可以話我知發生咗咩事?流鼻血係邊邊鼻?流咗幾耐?大概幾多血?幾密發生?」Chief complaint details; duration, frequency, side, volume
1:30–2:30Red flags + associated symptoms「有冇鼻塞、聞嘢聞唔到?有冇耳仔塞住、聽嘢差咗?有冇頭痛、面痺?有冇身體其他地方出血,好似牙肉出血、皮膚瘀斑、月經多咗?有冇消瘦、夜晚出汗?」Screens NPC, bleeding disorder, malignancy
2:30–3:30PMH, drugs, allergy, FH, social Hx「你有冇長期病?有冇食薄血丸、亞士匹靈、止痛藥?有冇藥物敏感?屋企人有冇類似問題?你有冇食煙飲酒?做咩工作?」Completeness of history; drug causes; HHT family history
3:30–4:30ICE + hidden agenda「你自己覺得流鼻血係咩原因?(Idea)你最擔心啲咩?(Concern)你今日嚟睇醫生,最想我幫你啲咩?(Expectation)」Directly tested in Case Report Form Q3; hidden agenda often = fear of NPC
4:30–5:15Signpost → summarise → examination plan「我總結一吓:你最近…(簡述),我想幫你檢查吓鼻、面、頸同埋量血壓,可以嗎?」Shows clinical reasoning, signposting scores marks
5:15–6:00Closing, safety net, empathy「多謝你今日嚟,我會安排檢查。如果再大量流血止唔到、或者頭暈、氣促,要即刻去急症室。你有冇嘢想問我?」Safety net and closure score highly

Uncovering the hidden agenda: The patient may present with "just a nosebleed" but really fears nasopharyngeal carcinoma (NPC) — especially in a Southern Chinese / Hong Kong context. Always ask 「你最擔心係咩?」 and explore family/friend experience with NPC.


DomainEnglish QuestionCantonese QuestionWhy It MattersIf Positive Think Of
Onset / DurationWhen did it start? How long each episode?「幾時開始?每次流幾耐?」Acute vs chronic; recurrent suggests structural/systemicRecurrent → NPC, HHT, bleeding disorder
SideWhich nostril? Both?「邊邊鼻流血?定兩邊都有?」Unilateral → local cause (tumour, septal spur); bilateral → systemicUnilateral persistent → NPC [1]
Volume / SeverityHow much blood? Clots? Need to go to A&E?「大約幾多血?有冇血塊?有冇去過急症室?」Severity grading; need for urgent interventionMassive → posterior bleed, coagulopathy
PrecipitantTrauma? Nose picking? Dry weather?「有冇撞親?有冇挖鼻?天氣乾唔乾?」Trauma/digital → anterior epistaxis (Little's area)Idiopathic + recurrent → think deeper
Nasal sx (NPC screen)Blocked nose? Loss of smell? Blood in postnasal drip?「有冇鼻塞、聞唔到嘢?有冇鼻水倒流帶血?」Blood in postnasal drip is significant in early NPC diagnosis [1]NPC
Ear sx (NPC screen)Hearing loss? Ear fullness? Tinnitus?「耳仔有冇塞住?聽嘢差咗?有冇耳鳴?」NPC: hearing loss, tinnitus, aural fullness from Eustachian tube blockage [1]NPC
Neuro sx (NPC screen)Double vision? Facial numbness? Headache?「有冇嘢睇開兩個?面有冇痺?有冇頭痛?」Cranial nerve involvement → advanced NPC [1]NPC with skull base invasion
Neck massAny lump in the neck?「頸有冇粒嘢?」Most common initial presenting symptom of NPC is lymphadenopathy [2]NPC
Bleeding elsewhereGum bleeding? Easy bruising? Heavy periods? Blood in stool/urine?「牙肉有冇出血?容唔容易瘀?月經有冇多咗?大便小便有冇血?」Mucocutaneous bleeding pattern → platelet/vWD disorder [3]ITP, vWD, leukaemia, liver disease
ConstitutionalWeight loss? Night sweats? Fever? Fatigue?「有冇瘦咗?夜晚出汗?發燒?好攰?」B-symptoms → malignancyNPC, haematological malignancy
HTNKnown hypertension? Headaches?「有冇高血壓?有冇頭痛頭暈?」HTN is a systemic cause of epistaxis [4]Hypertensive epistaxis
Drug HxAspirin? Warfarin? NOAC? NSAIDs? Nasal sprays?「有冇食薄血丸、亞士匹靈、止痛藥?有冇用鼻噴劑?」Drug-induced bleeding; rhinitis medicamentosa [4]Anticoagulant/antiplatelet-related
AllergyAny drug allergies?「有冇藥物敏感?」Completeness—
Family HxFamily history of nosebleeds? NPC? Bleeding disorders?「屋企人有冇成日流鼻血?有冇鼻咽癌?有冇出血病?」HHT is AD; NPC clusters in families; haemophilia/vWDHHT, NPC, haemophilia, vWD
Social HxSmoking? Alcohol? Occupation? Preserved/salted fish?「有冇食煙飲酒?做咩工作?細個有冇食好多鹹魚?」Smoking → nasal/sinus malignancy; salted fish → NPC risk in HKNPC, sinonasal carcinoma
Functional impactAffecting work/sleep/daily life?「流鼻血影唔影響你返工瞓覺日常生活?」Biopsychosocial assessmentSocial/functional problem for CRF

Case Report Form Answer Builder

Format: "Recurrent epistaxis for [duration]"

Must capture: Side (L/R/bilateral), frequency, duration of each episode, volume, precipitants (trauma/nose-picking/spontaneous), associated nasal/ear/neurological symptoms, bleeding elsewhere, constitutional symptoms, drug history (anticoagulants, NSAIDs), PMH (HTN, liver disease, bleeding disorders), FH (NPC, HHT).

Likely RFC ExamplesHow to Phrase
Worried about cancer / NPC"Patient presents due to concern that recurrent epistaxis may indicate nasopharyngeal carcinoma"
Epistaxis not stopping / getting worse"Patient presents because nosebleeds are becoming more frequent and difficult to control"
Advised by family to see doctor"Patient presents at family's urging after recurrent nosebleeds"

Tip: The RFC is NOT the diagnosis. It is the patient's reason for attending today. Ask 「點解今日嚟?」

ComponentExample Wording for CRF
Ideas"Patient thinks nosebleeds may be due to dry weather / nose picking / high blood pressure"
Concerns"Patient is worried it could be nasopharyngeal carcinoma, as a relative was diagnosed with NPC"
Expectations"Patient wants reassurance and possibly a referral for nasal endoscopy / blood tests"

In an FM station with a young/middle-aged patient and isolated recurrent epistaxis without red flags → Idiopathic anterior epistaxis (Little's area)

If the stem includes HTN → Hypertensive epistaxis

If the stem includes unilateral bloody postnasal drip + ear symptoms + neck mass → Nasopharyngeal carcinoma

Minimum supporting evidence: Location (anterior), self-limiting, no systemic bleeding, normal BP, no neck mass, no ear symptoms.

DDxKey Discriminator
1. Nasopharyngeal carcinomaUnilateral blood-stained postnasal drip, neck mass, ear fullness, CN palsy; Southern Chinese
2. HypertensionElevated BP on measurement, posterior bleed, older age
3. Bleeding disorder (e.g. ITP / vWD)Bleeding at multiple mucocutaneous sites, petechiae/purpura, prolonged bleeding, FH

TypeProblem
BiologicalRecurrent epistaxis causing anaemia / iron deficiency
PsychologicalAnxiety about underlying cancer (NPC)
SocialFunctional impact — avoidance of social activities / work absenteeism due to unpredictable nosebleeds

Diagnosis/DDxBest Supporting Physical SignHow to ElicitWhy It Supports
Idiopathic anterior epistaxisVisible anterior septal vessel prominence / crusting at Little's areaAnterior rhinoscopy with headlight & nasal speculum; look at anterior septumLittle's area (Kiesselbach's plexus) is the most common site of anterior epistaxis
NPC [1][2]Cervical lymphadenopathy (Level II, bilateral)Palpate anterior and posterior triangles of neck bilaterallyMost common initial presenting symptom of NPC; firm, non-tender nodes
HypertensionElevated blood pressure ( > 140/90 mmHg)Standard BP measurement in both armsHTN is a recognised systemic cause of epistaxis [6]
Bleeding disorderPetechiae / purpura on skin (esp. dependent areas)Inspect shins, forearms, oral mucosaMucocutaneous bleeding pattern indicates platelet-type disorder [3]
HHTTelangiectasiae on lips, tongue, fingertips [5]Inspect lips, oral mucosa, nasal mucosa, fingertipsTriad of FH (AD) + recurrent epistaxis + telangiectasia/AVM = HHT

Must-Not-Miss Red Flags → Urgent Referral

  • Unilateral bloody postnasal drip + serous otitis media + neck mass → suspect NPC → urgent ENT referral + nasopharyngeal endoscopy + EBV serology [1][2]
  • Massive uncontrollable epistaxis → A&E; may need posterior packing / arterial embolisation
  • Bleeding at multiple sites + petechiae → CBC urgently; consider leukaemia, ITP, DIC
  • New neurological signs (diplopia, facial numbness) → NPC with skull base invasion → urgent imaging
  • Recurrent epistaxis + telangiectasia + FH → HHT → screen for visceral AVMs [5]

Common Traps That Lose Marks

  1. Forgetting NPC in a Hong Kong patient — the examiners expect you to screen for NPC ear/nose/neck symptoms. This is the #1 "serious not to miss" in HK FM.
  2. Not asking about drugs — anticoagulants and antiplatelets are a very common cause in elderly patients.
  3. Not checking BP — hypertension is listed as a systemic cause on GC slides [4]. Always state you would measure BP.
  4. Writing "epistaxis" as the RFC — the RFC is WHY they came today (e.g. fear of cancer), not the symptom itself.
  5. Missing ICE — this is directly marked. Always ask all three components explicitly.
  6. Confusing haemoptysis with epistaxis — epistaxis may present as blood in the mouth or be swallowed causing haematemesis / melaena. GC slides highlight epistaxis as a mimicker of upper GI bleeding [7] and a differential for haemoptysis [8].

Shortest safe management / safety-net line: 「如果流鼻血超過二十分鐘止唔到,或者大量出血、頭暈,請即刻去急症室。」 ("If nosebleed doesn't stop after 20 minutes, or there is heavy bleeding or dizziness, go to A&E immediately.")


High Yield Summary

What to ASK: Side, frequency, volume, postnasal blood, ear symptoms (hearing loss/tinnitus/fullness), neck mass, facial numbness/diplopia, bleeding elsewhere, drugs (anticoagulants/NSAIDs), BP history, FH (NPC, HHT), ICE — especially cancer fear.

What to WRITE: Chief complaint with duration; RFC = why today (often fear of NPC); ICE explicitly; most likely Dx with supporting evidence; DDx including NPC, HTN, bleeding disorder; biopsychosocial problems; one physical sign (anterior septal vessels for idiopathic, neck nodes for NPC, BP for HTN).

What NOT to MISS: NPC in a HK patient (postnasal blood, ear sx, neck mass); drug-induced bleeding; HHT (telangiectasia + FH + recurrent epistaxis); always measure BP; always ask ICE.


Active Recall - Family Medicine Clinical Test

[1] GC 215. Common nasal conditions and nasopharyngeal carcinoma.pdf (pp. 3, 51) [2] MBBS Final MB (Surgery) (Felix PY Lai).pdf (p. 251 — NPC clinical features and diagnosis) [3] MBBS Final MB (Medicine) (Felix PY Lai).pdf (pp. 1354, 1369 — platelet vs coagulation bleeding patterns, ITP) [4] CFB WCS29_Common ENT conditions 2023.pdf (p. 9 — Epistaxis causes: local and systemic) [5] Introduction to Clinical pharmacology (I) (Pharmaco-Genomics, Precision Medicine).pdf (p. 2 — HHT case); Maksim Medicine Notes.pdf (p. 280 — HHT triad); Ryan Ho Fundamentals.pdf (p. 404 — telangiectasiae on lips/fingertips) [6] Block A - High blood pressure: hypertension.pdf (p. 18 — epistaxis as symptom of hypertensive vascular disease) [7] GC 036. Coffee ground vomitus/tarry stool_upper GI bleeding.pdf (p. 29 — epistaxis as mimicker) [8] General clerkship Teaching Clinic - Haemoptysis_Prof MSM Ip_25 October 2024.pdf (p. 44 — epistaxis vs haemoptysis)

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